mordicai magog, to caeli therion. ([info]mordicai) wrote,
@ 2008-07-18 10:23:00
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convert or be converted!
is it just me, or do these wizards of the coast articles on converting your character bug anyone else? i mean, they don't make me angry, but they kind of exhasperate me. "how to convert your character" could mean a variety of things, but it shouldn't be a list of no-brainer arguments. "favored soul is kind of like a cleric, so just play a cleric!" or "war wizard is pretty wizardy-- just play a wizard!" now, okay, maybe some fourteen (14) year olds out there are just waiting for "official" word so they can print up this article & present it to their dms? but come on, really? really? if you want to actually make a helpful conversion article, just put a little elbow grease into it! "if you want to play a favored soul, well, the new cleric works pretty well, except for that whole getting wings. you can take a martial proficiency as a feat-- that works for the first part. as to the wings & all that, well, below we have an encounter, daily, & utility power that replicate it." how about that? how about you give a little blurb like "for the war wizard, we suggest dungeon masters let their player swap impliment proficiencies for weapon proficiencies." just a little bit of colouring outside the lines? because otherwise, all you are saying is "please refer to the book you already own, thanks for the page load." you know? no help at all. this is the sixth (6th) installment & they are all just treading water.



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[info]martak
2008-07-18 02:59 pm UTC (link)
Mostly I am disappointed by their publishing schedule of new materials. Looks like somebody must have told them "minis sell, D&D books don't." For instance, I am going to have to wait until December for Manual of the Planes, or even August until there is a simple, stupid DM's screen.

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[info]mordicai
2008-07-18 03:05 pm UTC (link)
yeah-- not having a blitz of products available? is a bummer. then again, maybe some people feel choked by stuff like that? i'll see. my plan though is to buy only as a player. or well. i'll probably get things that are just good literature, too (see also 3.5s fiendish codices)

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not angry, but kinda disgusted
[info]delascabezas
2008-07-18 03:20 pm UTC (link)
what really pisses me off is that dragon and dungeon used to be where you went for inspiration outside the box! with thier print demise, and the rise of the wotc branded site, it has simply become a new form of marketing reinforcement.

coloring outside the lines promotes messyness, and special cases. the new dnd hierarchy is about cookie cutter components. if you start blending or blurring, there might actually be an amaginative market out there, who isin't going to shell out for the cookie-cutter replicated mmorpg/miniatures cross-branded set coming to you soon, circa a year from now.

4e isn't about dnd player, imo, it is about trying to find new market share in people who are intimidated by the geekiness of rulesets gone by. roll it simple and straightforward, and keep it in line with the "acceptable geek" flavors of WoW, and other MMORPGs, so you can pick up some converts here and there, who are already used to paying a monthly fee to have thier imaginations painted for them.

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Re: not angry, but kinda disgusted
[info]mordicai
2008-07-18 03:31 pm UTC (link)
dude, don't even get me thinking about the death of dragon & dungeon. i'm not paying 15 bucks a month (or 10, or 5) to log on to a website. didn't the dotcom bubble burst prove the failure of that model?

anyhow, the new rules ARE built for exceptions-- that is the whole over-riding intellegence: simple rules, many exceptions. i think it is a good one-- i'm in no way a blanket hater on 4e. as to the miniature marketing enterprise, well, that doesn't bother me, once we get over the cusp. having to wait for the cross promotion is a part of the torture of a new edition.

i don't know that i can issue a blanket opinion on 4e as forcing people into a mold. that remains to be seen. 3e wasn't as magical as people are pretending-- barbarians? druids? paladins? rangers? all these classes where everyone got the same powers. i think that wizards could very well publish enough info to diversify the classes, the settings, the races. i already know dudes ([info]martak) who have made great inroads taking the rules, filing the serial numbers off, & plugging on different faces.

mind you, i say all this. i'm running world of darkness (loosely, in a fantasy setting). so it is no sweat off my back.

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[info]kromelizard
2008-07-18 06:29 pm UTC (link)
I appreciate that, in the end, this is D&D and the entire focus is about having fun playing it. Maybe I don't want to craft a world for it, but I'll certainly enjoy tweaking characters for it

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[info]mordicai
2008-07-18 07:51 pm UTC (link)
so far i'm on board with that.

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